Oct. 28th MOO session in Albertoid's Pad
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Welcome! Albertoid's pad has been constructed with the generous help of the DaMOO wizards, Jai and Gofy. This is primarily an educational space designed for class meetings. The pad usually has the logging function turned on, which means that whatever is said and done here is public discourse. There are two rooms here. Pad II accommodates another group of MOOers. If you have been told to go to Pad II, simply type west.
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A small swarm of 3x5 index cards blows in and disperses, revealing Albertoid.
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In this room there will be approximately 2 groups of Swedish students and 2 groups of American students. Each of group is divided into two
"constellations." Your constellation should have chosen a spokesperson/ typist and be named with that person's name. For example, if your
group's typist is named "JimBob," your constellation should be named "JimBob_&_Co".
If you need to rename yourselves, type "@name [your new name]".
Today's task will involve 4 activities: inventing a syllogism, posting it to the MOO, debating your peers' syllogisms in the MOO and then,
once the debate is over, revising your syllogism.
Invention (10 Minutes):
Your group's initial task is to claim a definition for the category of "the cool" or "the just." Like all good claims, your definition should be
somewhat controversial and reasonably debatable; consider your audience here. For example, knowing that my part of my audience is
non-American, I might claim that "hip hop is cool" or that "the death penalty is just." Conversely, the Swedes might claim that "ABBA is
cool" or that "socialized medicine is just." You may also make negative claims -- that something is not cool or unjust. So, get together with
your entire group -- not just your constellation -- and make a claim.
Once your group has a claim, use examples to test and flesh out your supporting reasons. Then pick your best reason and compose an
enthymeme plus a full syllogism. For example, knowing that -- traditionally speaking -- Swedish culture values conformity and dislikes
extreme differences in society, an American might propose the following controversial arguments:
enthymeme: Body piercing is cool because it's so extreme.
syllogism:
Major Premise ("assumption"): premise: Anything extreme is cool.
Minor premise: Body piercing is extreme.
Conclusion: therefore, body piercing is cool.
Or, knowing that the U.S. engages in a trade blockade of Cuba, a Swede might propose the following controversial syllogism:
enthymeme: The blockade of Cuba is unjust because it makes Cuba's poor poorer.
syllogism:
Maj. premise ("assumption"): Anything that punishes the poor is unjust
Min. premise: The blockade of Cuba makes Cuba's poor poorer.
Conclusion: therefore, the blockade of Cuba is unjust
Post (10 Minutes):
Separate into constellations and gather round your computers. Have ONE of the group's typists send your group's enthymeme (but not its
syllogism!). Sign the message with both constellation names (ex., "JimBob_&_Co" and "BettyLu_&_Friends").
Read the other group's enthymeme's and determine their assumptions.
Debate (15-30 Minutes):
Now offer rebuttals to each others postings and respond to any rebuttals offered. Rebuttals can involve demands for grounds, counter
examples, counter reasons, and attacks on the opposing team's assumption, etc.
Your group should defend itself as best as possible. However, if you can't defend something, concede your peer's point and try to revise your original position.
The Moderator will set the time limit and try to organize the debate. He may also pose questions and rebuttals.
Revision:
At our next class meeting you will receive a copy of MOO transcript. In class you will rewrite your argument in Toulmin form and include all
significant rebuttals and defenses from the MOO session. If you didn't have decent defenses for some of the good rebuttals, you will be
asked to revise your argument or add a belated defense. We will also discuss the rebuttals in class: how they could have been improved or pre-empted.
A completed Toulmin revision will eventually be posted to the Forum. Your instructor will set the due date.
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fricansa_guest teleports in.
peter&girls_guest teleports in.
cecilia_guest teleports in.
sajber_guest teleports in.
zombies_guest teleports in.
ulrika&C0_guest teleports in.
uninvited_guest teleports in.
foxes_guest teleports in.
fricansa_guest says, "hello alla"
cecilia_guest says, "hello"
sajber_guest says, "hallo"
peter&girls_guest says, "heej"
foxes_guest says, "hello""
uninvited_guest says, "hi dudes"
zombies_guest says, "hello guys"
sajber_guest asks, "and who do you think you are?"
fricansa_guest says, "hello australia koala kahn"
cecilia_guest says, "we are us"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "hi, how are y'all"
sajber_guest exclaims, "WE OWN THIS PLACE, SOD OFF!!!"
fricansa_guest says, "what"
uninvited_guest exclaims, "you wish!"
zombies_guest says, "we are mean and hungry, we are going to eat you alive"
cecilia_guest says, "Hi Fricansa"
fricansa_guest says, "howisit"
sajber_guest says, "come on then"
zombies_guest says, "roooouuughhhh"
peter&girls_guest says, "what are zombies doin here"
foxes_guest says, "zombies,can you see us?""
cecilia_guest says, "Go ahead and try"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "we're the spice girls, we get all the power"
fricansa_guest asks, "how is australia ?"
sajber_guest says, "we are sooo afraid, not"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "you are too"
cecilia_guest says, "it is great"
peter&girls_guest says, "whos fricansa"
zombies_guest says, "cecilia, we are going to chew on your foot"
ulrika&C0_guest asks, "what's up for halloween?"
cecilia_guest exclaims, "ouch!"
cecilia_guest says, "Fia me donk"
foxes_guest says, "i don't think Spice girls are that hot anymore""
fricansa_guest says, "hej you! We heard you climbed this big rock.."
sajber_guest says, "the fact is, we do not know anything about eticette"
uninvited_guest says, "wanna have some fun"
cecilia_guest says, "agrees with foxes"
cecilia_guest says, "yeah"
zombies_guest says, "at halloween you better watch out"
sajber_guest says, "we do"
ulrika&C0_guest says, ""give us your best shot"
foxes_guest says, "thank you cecilia_guest""
uninvited_guest says, "we'll be there, uninvited"
zombies_guest says, "ulrika,we need something spicy.."
cecilia_guest says, "lol at uninvited"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "looking forward to it"
uninvited_guest says, "spice up your life"
sajber_guest says, "spice girls ruels"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "we sure will..."
fricansa_guest exclaims, "black panter is loose!"
cecilia_guest says, "noway"
foxes_guest says, " foxes have had a bad day today,we were lost in the TENTA forest""
sajber_guest says, "help"
cecilia_guest exclaims, "Oh NO!"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "we've got the power..."
ulrika&C0_guest asks, "Wannabe our lover?"
uninvited_guest says, "no shit, we better watch out"
cecilia_guest says, "look behind you"
zombies_guest says, "but we got the strength"
sajber_guest says, "who is interested in a party"
peter&girls_guest asks, "whos gonna watch the shining tonight?"
uninvited_guest says, "oh no it's a panther"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "you can't if you don't have the spice"
foxes_guest says, "did you spice up your tenta today, gals""
cecilia_guest exclaims, "OH no! It is a moose!"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "we sure did"
cecilia_guest says, "we are"
fricansa_guest exclaims, "watch out! it may be in the room!!!!!!!!"
zombies_guest says, "rrrrrooooouuuugggghhhhrrrrr"
sajber_guest says, "party time or not"
cecilia_guest says, "party on"
zombies_guest says, "i need liver"
uninvited_guest says, "party time any time"
peter&girls_guest says, "for what"
sajber_guest asks, "what is wrong with you guys?"
cecilia_guest says, "have some of mine"
foxes_guest says, "anyone for a celebration""
mikosis teleports in.
Wed Oct 28 07:03:02 1998 PST
cecilia_guest says, "Nothing is wrong with us"
mikosis goes west.
sajber_guest says, "welcome"
ulrika&C0_guest asks, "where's the party at, folks?"
fricansa_guest says, "who is mikosisisisi"
peter&girls_guest goes west.
uninvited_guest goes west.
cecilia_guest goes west.
sajber_guest says, "at michael's "
sajber_guest goes west.
zombies_guest says, "we're still hungry"
ulrika&C0_guest asks, "great, that'll be a ball, where does he live?"
mikosis has arrived.
ulrika&C0_guest says, "I'm so excited, I just can't hide it"
fricansa_guest says, "could somenoe please open the window"
Task_Guest teleports in.
mikosis goes west.
fricansa_guest says, "rickie lake is going to get the nobel peace prize for all her good work to keep the peace in the world"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "Yeah, she certainly should"
fricansa_guest says, "just look at all the work she did with the african american in LA"
traceygroup_guest teleports in.
fricansa_guest says, "they all got homes because of her,,,,,50 million people"
Dan_and_Posse_guest teleports in.
julie_group_guest teleports in.
fricansa_guest asks, "what do you think about her amazing efforts ??"
julie_group_guest says, "hey everyone""
fricansa_guest says, "hey you"
drew&others_guest teleports in.
ulrika&C0_guest says, "the ricki lake show is a psychological miracle"
fricansa_guest asks, "have you ever heard of the lady ricky lake ??"
drew&others_guest goes west.
jimm_guest teleports in.
ulrika&C0_guest says, "why, she'a great person, she is making everyones lives better..."
jimm_guest goes west.
fricansa_guest says, "talk"
Victory_Guest teleports in.
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "howdy Folks"
fricansa_guest says, "whenever I watch the show I'm bawling and she is just great and she have also helped me when I had a problem"
kelly_guest teleports in.
Julie_guest says, "hello"
fricansa_guest says, "I just wrote to her and boom she was there"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "Ricki has a tremendous talent for coming up with new subjects to "discuss""
Julie_guest says, "hello swedes"
fricansa_guest asks, "hey julie, what do you think ?"
Julie_guest asks, "???"
julie_group_guest says, "what do i think about what""
ulrika&C0_guest says, " she makes our boring everyday a constant party"
fricansa_guest says, "about rickie lake"
fricansa_guest says, "isn't she amazing"
Julie_guest says, "JERRY SPRINGER IS BETTER"
fricansa_guest says, "he is sick"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "what about her"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "she sure is, that magnificant girl"
Julie_guest exclaims, "JERRY RULES!!!!!"
Joe_guest teleports in.
Joe_guest says, "hello"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Jerry is a perverse old man"
Albertoid reconnects.
ulrika&C0_guest says, "at least ricki is not into porn"
fricansa_guest asks, "look at his show and you'll see that they are only fighting, his show is a fake don't you know that ???"
julie_group_guest says, "I agree with dan""
mikosis has arrived.
Berg_guest says, "RICKI'S SHOW IS LAME"
fricansa_guest says, "how can you agree and then tell he is best"
erika_&_co_guest says, "Americans believe they have the best nation in the world, says erika&co and foxes"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Rikki is a pork chop"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "RICKI IS SO COSY, YOU DONT WANT TO SWITCH OFF YOUR TV"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "for your info, ricki is gorgeous"
fricansa_guest says, "don't talk about rickie that way, she actually gave all poor people a little bisquit"
Albertoid says, "Hello folks. Let's confer on the syllogisms, since you need to come up with an enthymeme to post and and syllogism. Remeber don't post the major premise. it's your job to figure out what the major premise of the other groups' enthymene is. "
erika_&_co_guest says, "are you all ready to start"
fricansa_guest says, "she were truly great and she also gave them a drink"
mikosis goes west.
Berg_guest says, "Jerry is not fake"
Dan_and_Posse_guest asks, "At least can we all aggree on how to spell Rikki's name?"
fricansa_guest exclaims, "sorry it is swedish man duuhhh??!!!"
fricansa_guest says, "prove that jerry is not a fake"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "what do you mean, aggree..."
Berg_guest exclaims, "i was on JERRY!! it was real!"
fricansa_guest says, "he tells everybody to hit the hardest they can just to make the show look coool"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "good for you, doh"
fricansa_guest says, "maybe you were one of the fighters"
Berg_guest exclaims, "i slugged someone and it was by my own choice!!!!"
fricansa_guest says, "you need to get to rikkis show to get some help "
fricansa_guest says, "see there you go"
Berg_guest says, "maybe if i needed to lose weight"
fricansa_guest says, "she would help you'"
fricansa_guest says, "maybe you can go to the gym with her "
Berg_guest says, "i'm skinny"
fricansa_guest says, "oprah might be there too"
erika_&_co_guest says, "why don't you face it oprah rules"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "Ricki is so great she could run for president....."
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Oprah is a tubby b***"
erika_&_co_guest says, "dick detrisch is best"
fricansa_guest says, "why are all people in america over weighted and can't change"
Berg_guest says, "ricki is a wanna be!!! "
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "I'm not overwieght"
Berg_guest exclaims, "we are not all over weight!!!!!!!!"
fricansa_guest says, "yeah thats why we love rikkie"
foxes_guest says, "rikki look like Monica L""
Joe_guest says, " Blah blah blah"
fricansa_guest says, "not all but 98 %"
erika_&_co_guest says, "go rikkie"
Berg_guest says, "NOT!! get your facts straight"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Why don't all sweedish people look like the bikini team"
fricansa_guest says, "u have never seen us"
erika_&_co_guest says, "there is no sun in sweden"
Berg_guest says, "that stinks"
Joe_guest goes west.
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "You have not seen me either"
fricansa_guest says, "what bikini team...the one in dumb dumber"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "why can't americans learn to say goodbye before they hang up the phone, and why do they always wear their shoes indoors"
foxes_guest says, "sure in the summer""
Albertoid says, "I just opened a slide with the instructions, for your convenience."
Berg_guest says, "we take our shoes off in the house"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "I wear my shoes everywhere, even to bed"
Albertoid hopes everyone is working on their enthymemes and syllogisms.
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "We are"
Albertoid says, "excellent and cool"
fricansa_guest says, "do you think homosexuals should be allowed to get children ?? rikkie does"
Berg_guest says, "get off the ricki thinkg"
Berg_guest says, "sure"
fricansa_guest asks, "why ???"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Hey let me buy you guy's a round of beer"
fricansa_guest exclaims, "she is the queen !"
Berg_guest says, "BEER BEER BEER"
Albertoid says, "fricansa and group. can you phrase that in the form of a claim and a reason? "
ulrika&C0_guest says, "bungyjumping is cool because of the adrenalin rush. "
fricansa_guest says, "we think homos can NOT raise children in a proper way"
Albertoid says, "There's only coffee in the pad."
julie_group_guest says, "In the U.S.A., Football is watched and enjoyed by almost every american""
fricansa_guest says, "children must have a male and a female as a rolemodel in life"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Thats ok, I brought my own"
Albertoid says, "FOLKS--the groups in pad II have already posted their enthymemes. Let's post ours in the next few minutes."
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Our enthymeme is that "Jazz is the best form of music""
traceygroup_guest says, "our enthymeme: Smoking cigarettes is cool."
erika_&_co_guest says, "USA believe they will save the world, erika&co and foxes"
ulrika&C0_guest says, ""yeah, jazz rocks "
fricansa_guest says, "our enthymeme is that homosexuals shouldn't have children"
Albertoid says, "remember that the claim should calim that something is or is not cool or just. Please phrase your enthymemes that way. Also, iclude a reason, because . . . "
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Jazz is the best form of music because the musicians can actually PLAY their instruments"
fricansa_guest says, "BECAUSE it is not good for the kids"
Berg_guest says, "SMOKING IS STINKY"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Erika&co, We don't beleive that we will SAVE the world We think that we will destroy it"
fricansa_guest says, "the kids can get picked at if they live with two dads..."
Albertoid asks, "Dan, how about Jazz is the coolest form of music?"
julie_group_guest says, "Americans have kept their Sundays free for decades for the main purpose of watching football on them""
fricansa_guest asks, "in what way is jazz cool ???"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "women are more intelligent than men cause we have EQ"
Albertoid says, "Tracey, smoking is cool because . . ."
Dan_and_Posse_guest exclaims, "OK, Jazz is the collest form of music!"
fricansa_guest asks, "why ????"
julie_group_guest says, "will someone respond to our syllogism about football?""
Albertoid says, "because . . . without a reason, it's not an enthymeme, right? ALL groups--PLEASE POST YOUR ENTHYMEMES AS A TWO PART STRUCTURE--CLAIM PLUS SUPPORTING REASON. THANKS."
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "It is the most expressive and soulful style of music"
erika_&_co_guest says, "It isn't cool of the Hollywoodfilm-makers to give us the wrong picture"
fricansa_guest exclaims, "give a reason for why it is cool ????!!!"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "sucking poison from a paper stick is definitely NOT cool"
traceygroup_guest says, "Smoking cigarettes is cool because many people smoke."
erika_&_co_guest says, "Just think of films like armageddon"
Albertoid says, "OK. Time is up on this phase--everyone--all groups, please post your enthymeme."
fricansa_guest says, "we have given the reason and now you are gonna here more...you say you are a christian country ."
ulrika&C0_guest says, " right, and you have to "go with the flow""
foxes_guest says, "why do you think USA will distroy the world.""
fricansa_guest says, "why do u have a lot of gays and stuff"
julie_group_guest says, "just because many people smoke it does not make it cool""
Albertoid taps his foot waiting for the posts.
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Because the musicians actually have a grasp of the theorys behind their music , they know how to read, write, and transpose their ideas"
traceygroup_guest says, "we have religious choice, everyone is not christian"
fricansa_guest says, "we know but you have god on your bills and stuff "
erika_&_co_guest says, "our enthymeme is hollywood-films are not cool"
fricansa_guest says, "it is sick with gays"
Albertoid says, "erika, add a supporting reason."
erika_&_co_guest says, "the films give us the wrong picture of the world"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Because we consume too much and our society based totally on technology, the social lower class and the social upper classes are bieng driven farther and farther apart,."
fricansa_guest says, "Hey you! "
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Gay people are everywhere, not only in America"
julie_group_guest says, "this is our enthymeme: Death penalty is just because it punishes people for their crimes""
ulrika&C0_guest asks, "hello, anyone there?"
erika_&_co_guest says, "being a gay is NOT a disease "
Albertoid says, "OK, due to time constraints, we will start the next phase--each group identifies other groups' assumptions. In other words, they fill in the major premise. Let's start with Dan et al's enthymeme about jazz."
ulrika&C0_guest says, "an eye for an eye"
fricansa_guest says, "1. gays can not raise children properly.They think that it right with two dads or 2 mums. "
foxes_guest says, "then, why do most american keep on seeing themselves as world saviors""
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Music that is soulful and expressive is cool"
Albertoid asks, "Foxes, is your statement related to an enthymeme on the floor for discussion?"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, ""Thats our major premise""
erika_&_co_guest says, "Dan and friend says Everyone should play jazz"
Wed Oct 28 07:44:05 1998 PST
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "EXACTLY"
foxes_guest says, "Our enthymeme: that America still believe that they are the greatest nation""
traceygroup_guest says, "Smoking marijuana is just because it is a victimless crime."
fricansa_guest says, "2. the kids get picked at in school and they get a wrong picture of the real world. The real picture is: the man was created to love a woman and raise kids together"
Albertoid asks, "Thanks. But the task is for others to arrive at your major premise. Anyway, that sounds right. Let's go onto the others. What's the major premise forthe death penalty enthymeme?"
erika_&_co_guest says, "in Sweden it is illegal to smoke marijuana"
traceygroup_guest says, "it's illegal in the US too"
Albertoid says, "foxes, that is not an enthymeme. You need a claim and a reason."
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "America does not think that it is the best nation, certian high powered Americans believe that it is the best (I don't)"
fricansa_guest says, "3. u can't prevent 2 of the same sex from loving eachother, but it's not fare to the kids being raised by them. The kids don't have a choice'"
traceygroup_guest says, "it should be legal it doesn't cause as many problems as alcohol"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "people need to be punished for their crimes, Their mojor premise."
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "I like to eat chocolate cake"
Albertoid says, "About the death penalty--doesn't any punishment punish people for their crimes? The reason part should be a bit more specific to the taking of a life as punishment, like it's appropriate to the crime, say."
ulrika&C0_guest asks, "what's the point in paying money for drugs that'll only give you an illusion an a massive hangover?"
Dan_and_Posse_guest @drop cake
traceygroup_guest says, "pot doesn't give you a hangover"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "not to mention anxiety attacks"
fricansa_guest says, "ok we give up. But we know what the right way is"
Albertoid asks, "aside from jazz and the DP, I am not clear on what the other enthymemes are. Anyone?"
traceygroup_guest says, "it only causes anxiety attacks to people with existing anxiety problems"
Dan_and_Posse_guest smacks himself upside hi head
fricansa_guest says, "as we told u 100 times before. We dont like homos having kids"
foxes_guest says, "nobody has right to take somebody's life, even he is from government""
ulrika&C0_guest says, "sure if your life sucks, go ahead and smoke yourself to death"
julie_group_guest says, "major premise: An eye for an eye is just minor premise: people are willing to kill then they should be willing to get killed for what they did conclusion:people should get killed as a punishment for killing"
erika_&_co_guest says, "it sounds as if dan and posse are getting bored"
fricansa_guest says, "Rikki loves us thats the only thing that matters"
Albertoid says, "Thankyou, Julie et al."
traceygroup_guest says, "try it sometime you'd probably like it"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "go to Copenhagen, put up a tent in Christiania, and stay there"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Everyone has a chance, or they should have the chance to do whoever they want to be. If they choose to be gay let them"
foxes_guest says, "who is the bad guy""
Berg_guest says, "RICKI IS NOT GOD"
fricansa_guest asks, "MIKOSIS we are CLAIMING that we are leaving from the lesson. Any arguments?"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "no, but she's GODESS"
erika_&_co_guest says, " hugh oooop houwle dunk"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Ricki is a fat porn star"
ulrika&C0_guest says, ", goddessSorry"
erika_&_co_guest says, "the rest of the group does not agree"
foxes_guest says, "who is the bad guy the one who kills or the one who kill the killer, both killed""
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Smoking pot should also be a personal choice"
fricansa_guest says, "All americans are fat pornstar, exept Rikki"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Maj: Music that is soulfull and jazzy is cool."
ulrika&C0_guest says, "yeah, but you'd have to be pretty stupid to choose it"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Min: Jazz is soulfull "
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Conclusion: JAZZ IS COOL"
fricansa_guest says, "goodbye mikosis we are leaving"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "All Americans are not fat "
ulrika&C0_guest says, "Choosing selfdestruction is not my idea of coll"
Albertoid asks, "Can we pull this discussion back onto the task? Does anyone have a rebuttal to the death penalty posting? What about the assumption that a just punishment does to the perpetrator what they did to the victim? Are there exceptions to this?"
fricansa_guest says, "hey, u ALBERTOID! what do u think that we havew been doing the last two hours. No one listens"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "I think that being locked in a small room for the rest of my life would be a much more suitable punishment for the crime of murder than the death penalty is, it seems like a quick and easy way out"
erika_&_co_guest asks, "If you have murdered someone and you regret it is it a punishment or a relief to get executed?"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "If you choose to kill someone with a death penalty , then you are a murderer too."
fricansa_guest says, "agree w ulrika"
Albertoid asks, "Ah, so are you saying that two wrongs etc?"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "it hasn't been 2 hours"
foxes_guest says, "Swedish students are equally stupid to Americans due to our discussion about rikki""
traceygroup_guest says, "Minor premise: Smoking marijuana is a victimless crime"
Albertoid asks, "What if someone rapes someone else, should they be raped as a punishment? Is that the logic of the assumption?"
traceygroup_guest says, "Conclusion: Smoking marijuana should not be considered a crime."
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Swedes, You know just about as little about us as we know about you. We are not all fat, don't you watch baywatch? We all look like that."
Albertoid asks, "Any rebuttals to the assumption that laws against victimless activities are unfair?"
erika_&_co_guest says, "And you are all running in slow motion on the beach"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Smoking pot can be fun and educational"
fricansa_guest says, "doesn't it say anything to u taht we don't even have a lady like Rikki. U know what? We would actually hate having one like her. It's just americans that have ladies like Rikke. Are u for real"
traceygroup_guest says, "if someone rapes someone they should castrated"
fricansa_guest exclaims, "vi pallar inte mer!"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "ENGLISH ONLY"
ulrika&C0_guest says, "primitive"
erika_&_co_guest says, "We want to go home "
fricansa_guest says, "it is 5 o'clock and it is time to go home"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, ""Estellar `Con yenar de allegria!""
erika_&_co_guest says, "suckers"
Albertoid says, "OK, so Rikki Lake is an example of a bad, uncool American TV show"
erika_&_co_guest says, "i,m hungry"
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Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "I hate fatso (Ricki) I look like baywatch"
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Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "dont leave"
erika_&_co_guest says, "bye americans"
traceygroup_guest asks, "Are we done everyone is leaving?"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "See ya Swedes"
erika_&_co_guest says, "the swedes got to go"
jimm_guest says, "US represent"
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Go play in the snow in your bikini's"
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erika_&_co_guest says, "you would love to see that "
Albertoid says, "I guess this a wrap since the Swedes are heading out. Look for the transcript to be up on line soon."
Dan_and_Posse_guest says, "Not from you"
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Berg_guest says, "go watch ricki"
jimm_guest asks, "where do you guys hide the bikini team in the winter?"
julie_group_guest says, "now what do we do""
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Albertoid says, "type '@quit' to log off."
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erika_&_co_guest says, "exit"
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Albertoid says, "OK, let's take a ten minute break and come back here."
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